So sick.
source: http://www.drybonesblog.blogspot.com/
So sick.
I'm sick of the world crying out for the innocent civilian lives that Israel allegedly targets while Hezbollah is left relatively sweet smelling. Sure Hezbollah started this war, and sure Hezbollah uses civilians as cover, but since they didn't personally shoot the Lebanese civilians themselves, big bad Israel is to blame for every civilian casualty because they have bigger and smarter missiles.
Something is certainly wrong with this picture. Hezbollah brought war to Lebanon's doorstep, but Israel is held responsible for all Lebanese civilian deaths this war has wrought? I wonder if the world has fogotten about the kidnapped and murdered Israeli soldiers, and the people in Northern Israel being attacked by Hezbollah rockets. I guess now its Israel's misfortune that they protect and are capable of defending their civilians to the teeth and therefore experienced less casualties compared to Lebanon? Is the world waiting for hundreds of Israelis to be bombed and killed before they understand that Hezbollah will sacrifice Lebanese women, children and the elderly to win at all cost?
Bleeding hearts living in the comforts of their free world homes are exactly what Hezbollah wants and needs. To get more sympathy from them could mean more civilians will be sacrificed by Hezbollah.
posted by fire and rain @ 12:30 PM
6 Comments:
I supported Israel in the past too. I always did until last year when I had a Muslim roommate in University who was shocked at my support for Israel and their “self defense”. He gave me actual resources so that I could learn on the issue, whereas you seem to be getting your information from CNN. The sad part is, most people won’t laugh at this fact since the ignorance of people like you is what’s allowing these massacres to persist.. CNN’s ridiculously one sided, just like any media is unless you live in the middle east and see what is happening on both sides for yourself. Do some serious research aside from seeing one person who you didn’t happen to like and thus support the massacre of hundreds, not nearly as bad as the atrocities Israel has committed in the past. I for one think that Wolf guy is ignorant, but I don’t hate Israel because of him. Nor do I hate Israel at all. I merely oppose their government. You state Shihab is so bias, yet perhaps it you who are bias from the one-sided news you are accustomed to. Only 6 countries claim Hezbollah as a terrorist organization, 3 of which are Israel, US, and Canada. If you live in these nations it is clear you are going to get a misguided sense of what is going on. Perhaps more neutral countries like Britain are far too “terrorist-supporting” for you.
Oh I’m sorry:
• Israel Perspective
• Israpundit
• Yaakov Kirschen's blog
• Jerusalem is the place to be
• Support Israel
• You are not alone Israel
• Arlene from Israel
• Clarity and Resolve
Those are clearly unbiased sites which great analysis. I’m sure I’m completely wrong on all accounts.
Since when did Hezbollah bring this upon themselves? Oh since they tried negotiating with Israel for the safe return of thousands of civilians Israel has kidnapped without charge. Yes that’s right:
“Nine thousand captured Palestinians languish in Israel's notorious "security prisons", including 380 children and 115 women. Every day Israeli troops and Border Police kidnap, interrogate, torture and imprison Palestinians, often by the dozen. The arrest raids never stop, regardless of summits, truces, or cease-fires. It is estimated that 650,000 Palestinians have been imprisoned by Israel since the current occupation began in 1967.”
It’s long been established that Hezbollah followed suit with Hamas after the capture of one Israel serviceman. Of course, this is terribly unjustified as Hamas nor Hezbollah should have any right to try to seek the safe return of their citizens, right?
“The three soldiers were captured, not "kidnapped" as falsely reported. But nearly 10,000 Palestinian and Lebanese civilians were forcibly abducted, are now held in indefinite detention in Israeli prisons, many administratively without charge, and are grievously abused or tortured according to Amnesty International and B'Tselem, the Israeli human rights monitoring group. Amnesty, in fact, reported in 1998: "By Israel's own admission, Lebanese detainees are being held as 'bargaining chips;' they are not detained for their own actions but in exchange for Israeli soldiers missing in action or killed in Lebanon (during the Israeli occupation there). Most have now spent 10 years in secret and isolated detention (and many are still there or have been replaced by other abductees)." The "civilized world" rails about the three IDF prisoners of war, yet is unconcerned about 10,000 Arab victims because they're Muslims, not white enough, and no criticism of Israel is allowed or tolerated publicly for whatever it does. Still, no nation claimed it had a right to declare war on Israel to free its prisoners unjustifiably held nor would the world community tolerate it if one did.”
Oh wait, they are held as bargaining chips? So when Hamas and Hezbollah seek to bargain for the innocent they get bombed or occupied, completely fair, eh? When Al Qaeda killed thousands of Americans it gave the pretense for invading the Middle East (Note: I don’t support Al Qaeda, they are what I call true “Muslim Extremists” a term used very loosely on CNN, apparently your favorite show) When Israel hold thousands of people in terrible conditions you can just sit by and let them die?
“The Hamas-led Palestinian government has repeatedly called for a prisoner swap, saying it wants women and youths under 18 currently imprisoned in Israel released in exchange for the soldier.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has rejected those calls.”
Some have been in charge for 20+ years, probably longer than you have lived.
Oh but Israel is supporting the people – their allowing aid in, right? Sure, just like they bombed the Arab truck that was sending aid to the people.
“A humanitarian aid convoy scheduled to leave Syria for Beirut on Friday will only go as far as the Lebanese border because many of the drivers are refusing to travel into the battle zone.
The Red Cross had received guarantees of safe passage for the convoy from both the Lebanese-based militant group Hezbollah and the Israeli army, which have exchanged rocket attacks and air strikes for the past 17 days.
Loaded with much-needed medical supplies, food, clothing and blankets donated from Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, the convoy of 10 trucks was supposed to leave Damascus for Beirut on Friday.
But despite assurances from both sides in the conflict, Red Cross spokeswoman Tamara Al Rifai said the drivers have refused to enter Lebanon.
"The drivers are scared, and rightly so," she said.
Al Rifai says two incidents have added to the drivers' fears. Last week, an aid truck from the United Arab Emirates was hit by Israeli warplanes shortly after it crossed the border into Lebanon.
Even more frightening, she said, was the Israeli bombing of a United Nations post in Lebanon that is believed to have killed four UN military observers. One Canadian is believed to be among the dead.”
Now other aid trucks are scared to enter. Israel sure as picked good targets, empty Christian truck, 3 coach buses. They thought all these were missile firing stations despite missiles not coming from the vicinity. You can tell they really care about their targets. Just like the 2 UN fortifications they hit, one containing 4 peacekeepers who died. Hezbollah were not in the vicinity.
“A history of casualties
The deaths at Khiyam weren't the first UN casualties in Lebanon. They weren't even the first since this current round of fighting began: A Nigerian peacekeeper was killed a week ago by an Israeli bomb when he left his post to retrieve some personal items from his home in a suburb of Tyre as it was under attack.
Since it began its mission in southern Lebanon, the UN has lost 262 personnel. It's a dangerous place in which Hezbollah routinely attempts cross-border raids or rocket attacks and Israel responds with artillery or aerial bombardments.
In the past two weeks of heavy fighting, there have been 145 incidents of "close firing" near UN posts and four sites have suffered direct hits, UN spokespeople say. All are believed to be by Israeli forces.
Peacekeepers might have thought they would be immune from such attacks. In 1996, during a similar kind of campaign, an Israeli bomb killed over 100 civilians who were sheltering at a UN post. The international outcry from that incident was huge.”
But whatever, do stick to your CNN, where all Muslims are extremists and Israel has every right to kill whom they please. If you like to have your information pre-chewed and made easy “USA/Israel are right” “Muslims are wrong”.
This may be more along your lines of understanding considering you fail to realize an of Israel’s wrongdoings in the past: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRVjADAaK9g
If Israel really cared about civilians, they’d go in themselves and fight rather than bomb everyone. But they are scared to lose troops as Hezbollah rightfully drove out in the 1982-2000 invasion/occupation from Israel.
i don't need to defend my views, but don't presume to know where and how, and since when have i read, and gathered information about the israel-palestinian conflict. you know what's ironic? you think cnn is too pro-israel, when i think cnn is anti. let's not even go to bbc...so no, im sorry to dissapoint you, what i know about the palestinian-israeli conflict has never been based on cnn, or in other cable news channels. if i wanted to make this entirely a blog about the israeli-palestinian conflict, you wouldn't see any other type of entries.
"If Israel really cared about civilians, they’d go in themselves and fight rather than bomb everyone. But they are scared to lose troops as Hezbollah rightfully drove out in the 1982-2000 invasion/occupation from Israel. "
So you think the IDF should endanger their own lives, and send in ground troops to minimize civilian casualties in locations where the Hizbullah deliberately go to hide? C'mon, are you serious? Has any other army done this? Why should the IDF compromise their own safety when you can neutralize the enemy through other means? If Hizbullah wishes to fire rockets from civilian locations, then Israel cannot be made responsible for the collateral damage when they attack back. That's the way war works, sunshine.
Do you think the Hizbullah even think about the Israeli civilians for one minute? or do they deliberately fire rockets to the civilian population of Israel? If you wish to pursue the "morality of war" issue, perhaps, you can pose the same questions about the Hizbullah extremists. Otherwise, your arguments are irrelevant.
Well, you call me a racist for speaking for the Israeli side when no one cares to question the indiscriminate killing of Israeli civilians by the Hizbullah. Isn't that convenient? I don't care to debate with you because you are the one obviously glued to CNN or BBC. Merely reducing the Israeli offensive against terrorists to the "massacre of civilians" is so one-sided and evidence enough that you get your information from the cable news channels. They just love showing those news reports don't they?
ANd saying Hizbullah speaks for or defends the entire of Lebanon is an atrocity. Maybe you can crack open a book sometimes or read TIME or newsweek instead of switching TV channels to get "fair and balanced" reports?
Atleast we agree on something, I think you are irrelevant, and you think logic is wasted on me.
Hello, hello -- missed me?
I have a favor to ask. You state: “Since our media does not have any political interest in creating a bias angle in delivering the news, Filipinos will read about the war in newspapers or watch it on TV without much of the drama that CNN, and especially BBC, like to show.”
This is a rather dangerous statement if you ask me, because the media outlets may have affiliations all over the world. Also, since Israel has censors all over their media, the information coming from the country is going to be restricted. Nonetheless, you're the one watching the news, and so I am asking if any of the shows are uploaded on youtube or google video, so I can see what they are like. Thanks!
Regarding the articles you posted about the abuse in Lebanon. I hope those commiting such indecent acts are brought to justice, and wish the civilians bombed by Israel hit them rather than children. My best friend who is half-Filipino I thought would mention that to me, as it seems like the kind of thing he'd bring up. The date at the top of the page: THURSDAY, JANUARY 01, 1970 PHT seems kindof odd me me. The phillipines aren't stuck in the 70's are they? Haha. Nonetheless, your latest post (August 3rd) I can understand completely and it helped to to understand your situation better.
I also apologize for the personal attack. Calling you racist just makes me a complete ass. I can understand Israel wants to defend itself against Hezbollah's rocket attacks, and Hezbollah has no right to target civilians. Please note that I did never state Hezbollah should kill Israeli civilians, and if I did, I'd be a terrorist myself, just like Al Quaeda. However, Israel has shown very little concern over the death of Lebanese civilians. Think of it this way – if a robber comes into your house and demands money with a gun to your head and police are called onto the scene, what do you expect them to do? In North America, the police officer is expected to proritize the safety of the victems before arresting the robber. If the police had just tossed a grenade at all of them and thought “there, problem solved” would you think this is justified? I certainly do not, since when do you deserve to die? You don't. “The Israeli army said it had struck about 150 targets in Lebanon so far, fewer than a dozen of them linked directly to Hizbollah. Most have hit civilian installations.”
Also from the first cbc article I give below:
“Israel said Thursday that its bombing of the Lebanese village of Qana, in which a number of civilians died, was a mistake and that its attack guidelines would be evaluated and updated as a result.”
How terrible. Killing a couple dozen innocent people is merely a mistake.
And as for my favourite news median: its CBC. Its less aggresive than CNN, but less critical than BBC. A shame you don't get it, but I've stopped watching it in the last several days as the whole situation just depreses me, and there is really nothing I can do. CBC does refer to Hezbollah as terrorists and as its the official news station of Canada, they follow what the prime minister does, who follows what George Bush does. Some sample articles:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/08/03/israel-qana.html
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/07/25/un-lebanon.html
“Merely reducing the Israeli offensive against terrorists to the "massacre of civilians" is so one-sided and evidence enough that you get your information from the cable news channels. “
Actually, I get that from the United Nations and a lot of other sources:
“During the five years under review, the human rights situation in the occupied Palestinian territory has seriously deteriorated. Israel, the occupying Power, has been violating the relevant conventions and rules of international law and the generally accepted norms and principles of international behaviour. In particular, its policies and practices in the occupied territory remain in clear violation of a number of carefully elaborated and universally accepted instruments of international law. 3/ The general policy of the Government of Israel continued to be based on the concept that the territory occupied by Israel since 1967 should be considered as part of the State of Israel. This has allowed Israeli authorities to advance the so-called "homeland doctrine" according to which, international law notwithstanding, the occupied Palestinian territory constitutes part of the "Jewish homeland", ceasing therefore to be "occupied territory".
In its successive reports, the United Nations Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Population of the Occupied Territories brought to the attention of the General Assembly factual data illustrating the worsening of the human rights situation in the occupied territory. The information contained in these reports indicated that the Israeli authorities, in repressing the Palestinians, violating their inalienable rights and denying them their basic freedoms, disregarded the provisions of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949. The policies of deportation, torture of detainees, mass arrests, demolition of houses, arbitrary beatings and killing of innocent people - among them children, women and the elderly - as well as the humiliation of Palestinians in their daily life have been systematically pursued by the Israeli authorities in the occupied territory. This situation was aggravated by the increasing armed settler violence against the unarmed Palestinian population. According to the West Bank Data Base Project (WBDP), approximately 67,700 Jewish settlers lived in the Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in April 1987. 4/ Meron Benvenisti, Director of the Project, writes in the organization's 1987 report that:
"... all settlers belong to the security forces, being an integral part of the Israeli army (Territorial Defense Units). It is estimated that the settler population possesses no less than 10,000 firearms of all types, as well as other military equipment such as wireless sets and vehicles. The extreme ideological outlook shared by the settlers and their relative independence in defining their military role must lead to excesses. Moreover, military and police authorities are reluctant to prosecute vigilantes even when illegal operations, aimed against official government decisions, are perpetrated." 5/
The Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Population of the Occupied Territories in its 1988 report noted with concern the noticeable increase of aggressiveness in Jewish settlers' behaviour towards the civilian Palestinian population of the occupied territory. Acts of violence and aggression perpetrated by the settlers against the Palestinians had reached, according to the Special Committee, "an unprecedented level". 6/ Particular reference in the report was made to the killing and kidnapping of Palestinian civilians, including children, by groups of Jewish settlers and members of Jewish underground organizations.
The overall picture drawn from the information made available to the Special Committee reflected a new phase in the evolution of the situation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, "characterized by a level of violence and repression never reached before in the course of the 21 years of occupation". 7/ The Special Committee stated unequivocally that the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip in itself constituted a violation of human rights. It was further pointed out in the report that:
"This fact, however, has been consistently denied by the Government of Israel, whose general policy towards the occupied territories is based on the principle that the territories occupied by Israel in 1967 constitute part of the State of Israel and that therefore measures such as the establishment of colonies in the occupied territories and the transfer of Israeli citizens thereto did not constitute a process of annexation. Such an attitude represents a flagrant violation of the international obligations of Israel as a State party to the Fourth Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War." 8/
Considering the gravity of the situation in the occupied territory, the Special Committee emphasized that the responsibility of the international community was more manifest than ever before and that urgent measures had to be taken to prevent further deterioration of the situation and ensure effective protection of the basic rights of the Palestinians in the occupied territory. The Special Committee concluded that such protection could be ensured only through the negotiation of a comprehensive, just and lasting settlement of the Arab-Israeli conflict acceptable to all concerned. The Special Committee was of the view that, until such a settlement was achieved, the following measures could contribute to the restoration of the basic human rights of the civilians in the occupied territory:
"...
"(a) The full application, by Israel, of the relevant provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which remains the main international instrument in humanitarian law that applies to the occupied territories, and whose applicability to those territories has repeatedly been reaffirmed by the Security Council, the General Assembly and other relevant organs of the United Nations;
"(b) The full co-operation of the Israeli authorities with ICRC in order to facilitate efforts to protect detained persons, in particular by ensuring full access of ICRC representatives to such persons;
"(c) The full support, by Member States, of the activities of ICRC in the occupied territories, and positive response by Member States to eventual appeals for additional assistance, including funds to finance the extra activities required by the unprecedented increase in the number of detained persons;
"(d) The full support, by Member States, of UNRWA activities in the occupied territories in order to enable UNRWA to improve the general assistance provided to the refugee population." 9/
ICRC, in the period under review, continued to carry out its protection and assistance activities in the occupied territory principally based on the Fourth Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949. Article 47 of the Convention specifically lays down the inviolability of the rights of protected persons in occupied territory. However, according to ICRC, Israeli authorities continued to violate the provisions of the Convention. These violations by the Israeli authorities included curfews and restriction on the freedom of movement of the Palestinians, destruction and walling up of their houses, expelling Palestinians from the occupied territory, seizing their land and declaring it "State land". Israeli authorities also continued their practice of inciting Palestinians to collaborate. 10/”
-UN
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7828123714384920696
An interesting read if you care to see life from others' point of view.
“ANd saying Hizbullah speaks for or defends the entire of Lebanon is an atrocity. “
Times UK reports Nasrallah eclipses bin Laden and has 89% support among Sunnis and 80% support among Lebanese Christians.
Nearly 90 percent of all Lebanese now support Hezbollah, as similar numbers would support resistance groups in America if it was invaded. Thus, according to Israeli logic, millions of people are terrorists who must be eradicated, sort of like cockroaches.
The stakes are high for Hizbullah, but it seems it can count on an unprecedented swell of public support that cuts across sectarian lines.According to a poll released by the Beirut Center for Research and Information, 87 percent of Lebanese support Hizbullah's fight with Israel, a rise of 29 percent on a similar poll conducted in February. More striking, however, is the level of support for Hizbullah's resistance from non-Shiite communities. Eighty percent of Christians polled supported Hizbullah along with 80 percent of Druze and 89 percent of Sunnis.
Lebanese no longer blame Hizbullah for sparking the war by kidnapping the Israeli soldiers, but Israel and the US instead.
The latest poll by the Beirut Center found that 8 percent of Lebanese feel the US supports Lebanon, down from 38 percent in January.
"This support for Hizbullah is by default. It's due to US and Israeli actions," says Saad-Ghorayeb, whose father, Abdo, conducted the poll.
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/israels-going-down-and-taking-us-with.html
http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/editorials/signs20060728_Israel27sNewMiddleEastKillAllArabs.php
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0728/p06s01-wome.html
The people there don't seem to think so. Perhaps you should worry about being too one-sided <_<.
hello anonymous from canada.
I can only answer one part of your recent post because your "debate" in this comment page is with another poster, and not me. I always reply using my username.
Our biggest news outlets have online and tv channels, and you can check the headlines at: http://inq7.net, and http://philstar.net. You can also check the news section of http://www.igma.tv/ I'm sorry, there is no youtube version of our local news here.
As for your bestfriend, here's the thing, unless your bestfriend is a regular visitor to the Philippines, has regular communication with his relatives here, or keeps himself updated with the news here, he will not know what is going on. I have Filipino-American cousins all over the U.S. and they have very little idea what's happening here.
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